I may try to save Biker Billy seeds this year. Truthfully I have no use for more than 3 or 4 plants a year so I'm still on my original pack of 30 seeds purchased from Burpee a few years back. I did save seeds from the hot lemon and fatalli plants, I originally bought the seeds from pepperjoe which charged around $3 for 10 or 15 seeds. Charlie -----Original Message----- From: owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com [mailto:owner-chile-heads@globalgarden.com]On Behalf Of Margaret Lauterbach Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:28 AM To: Chile-heads@globalgarden.com Subject: [CH] Biker Billies Hybrids? Are Biker Billies truly hybrids? IIRC the story originally was that a biker came into a Burpee store and said "you ought to be growing these." He was asked his name, and he said "Billy." Burpees people harvested the seeds and started the line. Now if that was true, it was an open pollinated chile. Burpees are claiming it's a hybrid. Sure, because if it is, saving seeds and planting them out would make getting fruit probably unlike the parent. You have to buy new seeds (from Burpees) every year if it's a hybrid. But if it is open pollinated, you would stand a good chance of getting the same chile from saving your own seeds. Has anyone (except me) tried this? I have seedlings from self-saved seeds and I think Marc Winterburn does too (from my seeds), but have not yet produced fruits. Margaret L