I agree, it will do just fine without brining. However, I like to brine the butts prior to smoking so that I can add some flavor (read: heat) all the way through the meat. Also, I have cooked hundreds of pork butts to an internal temperature of 180 F, and have never had a problem pulling one. Happy smoking.... Matt ============================= Hmmm. I wonder if the brining is doing that. I've heard that brined cuts cook faster. I suppose the extra moisture helps the collagen melt faster, or like mopping ,190+ is just an old wive's tale. Don't it come out a bit hammy though? Intrigued by the idea of spicing a butt... -Hound