Try contacting Bill Botkin at http://www.redfoxsalsa.com He's been known to occasionally lurk on the list (don't know about the moment though) & would probably be happy to answer your questions. He made the jump from home made/stove top to evil corporate type with his salsa a few years ago. He still has a day job flying 767's to South America so he might be a few days in answering. -Jim C MWPH