Speaking of "wow." I had answered Scott off-list that I pay $9.60 for a pound of whole chipotles (brown), SpiceHouse gets $14.90, about $11 for red/black (moritas). Penzey's charges about $13 for moritas. Bill Woodward oughtta start exporting from Texas, no wonder he loves it there. Gareth the ChileKnight "the" is such a great middle name