While researching this subject with relation to piri-piri I found the quote included. My apologies to John Lunz but his mail server bounces my mail. Some things to ponder as well. How did the banana get all over the place by this date. Bananas don't have seeds either. Mango native of the E. Indies, Malaya. Any suggestions of transport methods I may have would not fit with the establishment and are probably not a subject for this list. Peter ***************************************************** Posted without permission. ***************************************************** Posted by john lunz on June 18, 1998 at 10:18:39: In Reply to: Re: In search of the periperi/piripiri/pilipili posted by Nigel Wood on December 29, 1997 at 14:11:16: I've been reading of the travels of Ibn Battuta in Africa in the 1330s, which clearly predates Columbus's voyages. In the books I've read is described a meal which included the following: ..."They cook banana before it is ripe in fresh milk and they put it on a dish, and they put sour milk in a dish with pickled lemon on it and bunches of pickled chillies, vineagared and salted, and green ginger and mangoes." The footnote reference states that: "The word translated 'chillies' is 'fulfil', compare Kiswahli 'pilipili'. Common belief is that 'chilis' were introduced to europe and asia from south america following the opening of the 'new' world. This reference to 'chillies' has me wondering about the accuracy of this belief. john lunz ***********************************************************