>These guys are nastier. Being paper, rael's >technique will work even better, but does this >change the recommended approach? I had some of those guys try to settle in on my house. The wall-o-flame technique was not an option (insurance doesn't cover acts of arson). There are chemical sprays that allow you to stand off 10+ feet, but I ruled those out (too much $$$). I just take a broom and swat down the nest, then run like hell. Come back later and squash the nest. If you bother them enough in their attempts at home-building they will give up and try elsewhere, (hopefully a distant elsewhere). Try to eliminate the nests when they are small since there will be lesser numbers to mount a counter-attack. Scott... chacoense transplant complete... KCK