Byron, I suppose since we are using the net for our hot pepper fascination, it is almost to be expected that we would face terminator seeds. Why not call them shareware seeds with a time bomb. I am not anti-science, but I am anti arrogance. The Killer Bee is an example of another attempt to improve on nature. I believe that they were not released, but rather escaped. The result was not more honey. Do not give up hope. Accurate information skillfully publicized can be very powerful, and the net is an inexpensive medium for reaching many people. This is not just a chile issue. Rest assured that Monsanto does not want a negative image. I have red Habs that are the size and shape of my orange regular Yucatan Habs. I have very large orange Habs that are the size and shape of my red Trinidad Round Habs. There is also an interesting range of heat and flavor. It must be that the Israeli pollinating insects were not aware of the legal ramifications of their dallying. Akiva