In a message dated 9/99 5:31:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jim@wildpepper.com writes: << Failing that, ice cream works wonders and has the added benefit of being cold, which feels better. >> If we're swearing by things, instead of swearing at things, I swear by all that is good that a Holy Grail full of India Pale Ale, or Brooklyn Ale, or Rolling Rock will dampen the flames until the twenty minute waiting period is up. ...and I like beer so much better than ice cream.... Gareth the ChileKnight