Thank you Scott. Depending on who's talking, these are cool, warm, hot peppers that are Salmon colored when they are fully mature. They are as prolific bearing as all commentators have said, and despite the lack of spice, they are wonderful grilled in a little Extra Virgin Olive Oil. So they are Santa Fe Grandes (Grande being relative when they're staked out next door to Big (I mean really uber mucho mondo Big) NuMex Big Jim's. Gareth the ChileKnight