Just remembered part of something I read many years ago Someone wrote an article in Organic Gardening Mag. He did something to a hot pepper then added drops of tomato juice. He compared the heat by comparing the number of drops of tomato juice needed to bring the heat level down to the equivalent of a Jal. Of course the more drops, the hotter it was. For those that keep the mag. This would have been late 80's early 90's. Byron