Chile-Heads, I've been following the thread on bad seed suppliers and I feel compelled to come to Dave's defense. I placed an order with Dave for the first time this year. I was 100% satisfied with the products and service I received. My seed order was relatively small, but every last one of them sprouted. If you have personally had a bad experience with a supplier and they haven't attempted to rectify the situation, then by all means let us know about it. However, the type of vague anecdotal complaints I've seen posted lately are really unfair(Roy- Have you ever thought of going into politics?). Such vague accusations are nearly impossible to respond to adequately. There is nothing wrong with airing your complaints. Just get your facts straight and try to present them fairly. OK. I'll get off my soapbox now. - Ken