OFF TOPIC POST Can't say I agree with you there Roy boy, been on this list 3 mabee 4 years mabee longer, cain't say I've seen any vultures, (Buzzards mabee) <FBG>..(btw) thats a F****** big Grin.. There are people on this list that are probably more knowledgeable about the capsicum genus than most of the scientists who have ever worked on the field. If you have found little useful info on this list after a "couple of weeks" of subscribing. That is unfortunately your loss! One of the reasons things may get repeated over and over and over, is because new subscribers to the list keep asking the same questions that have been answered probably on average bi monthly for the last 8 years or so. If you like to dabble in sycoanalysis (sic) i'm sure that you could write many a thesis towards your matriculation using examples gleamed from our ranks although if you really want some good stuff you might instead try subscibing to the FAP list (Firearms and Politics. I do and I can tell you this list is pedestrian in its flame wars compared to FAP.. No fense tended Mo fense offered If fense taken So be It.. ps: If you feel comfortable quoting Jefferson, I'll ping one back at you. " ...and although we may be sacrificed,..the victory will cost the enemy so dear,that it will be worse for him than defeat..<snip> God and Texas. Victory or Death." William Barret Travis (The mission at Bexar, otherwise known as the ALAMO) March 3 1836 in a letter to the delegates at Washington. Its a "Damm Fine Quote", "by a man who knew he was about to die", but sadly has little if any relavence to the topics on this list. as did the Jefferson quote... Like brer Rael I don't filter my mail, I can, I just chose not to, After all once you have played Nekked Twister (tm) there ain't no mysteries left in life... Luke in Oz