Robert, I have to admit to being confused by now on just what is a datil. I thought one of my plants was, until I saw the ones Jim called datil. My Jean Andrews doesn't have datil in the index, and DeWitt's The Peper Garden has no illustration. I looked at Grame's site, and his illustration looks like what you describe. My plant's fruit and leaves are not quite like anything in Jim's hab field - the fruit is longer, but still a lantern shape, starting light green and ripening to vivid red. The growing habit is low and wide; the foliage is dark and ruffly, like miniature spinach leaves. Swarthy, I say, this is a plant that would smoke cigars and drink agave tequilla. I have a poor-quality photo of my plant, taken when the fruit was still pale green. I'll try to get another picture now that some of the fruit is ripe. The pickled ones I made turned out close to some pickled little cocktail peppers I remember having a few yers ago, even to the point of having little stems for handles. They look so harmless, small and simple and pale yellow green. I wonder if I should mix one or two of them into a ripe olive relish or something... Alex Silbajoris 72163.1353@compuserve.com back to hot canning