>I don't know anything about botulism except that I don't want it! Tom, Sorry I didn't include any info on botulism. It has been covered numerous times on the list and usually results in a flame war, so I am undergoing great personal risk here, but I don't want any lurking newbies to be un/mis-informed. Exact temps and pH may vary from source to source. Always be sure to err on the safe side. Nobody wants to get sick from eating our beloved chiles. Here are a few basics about this bug and a couple of links for more info: Botulism poisoning is caused by a toxin that is produced by the bacteria. The bacteria can go into a dormant phase where it forms spores that harbor the bacteria until conditions are more suitable for the bacteria to grow. Suitable conditions include: 1) lack of oxygen (anaerobic environment) Putting chiles in liquid to make a sauce meets this condition. Not much of a way around this one. 2) Temps above 4 Celsius/38 Farenheit This is why some sauces require refridgeration. 3) low acidity (pH 4.6 or above) This is why many sauces use vinegar, to raise the acidity (lower the pH below 4.5). Home canning for the appropriate time period in a boiling water bath kills the bacteria and destroys the toxin, but not the spores. Food canned this way is safe if the acidity is kept high enough (pH low enough) so the spores don't become active. To kill the spores you must attain temps higher than 240 F., (some sources say 250 F.) so a pressure canner must be used. This will prevent botulism, but may not kill all forms of mold spores present. Proper acidity should be maintained when canning, and refridgerate after opening because exposure can introduce spores -and- pH can change over time. http://iaith.simplenet.com/botulism/ http://www.survival-center.com/foodfaq/ff15-bot.htm#botulism http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/foodborn/botulism.htm Scott... forgive me, El Grande, I know this thread can really bite... KCK