It would seem that opinions vary a great deal on the subject of "extract"-based sauces. As someone who has tried a number of them, I thought I'd let all of you know just exactly what I think. Heat ratings are on a scale of 1 to 10, sorta :-) Endorphin Rush (10.5): One of the best tasting of the extract sauces quite sweet with some tomato taste. Dave's Total Insanity (10.5): Very little chemical taste. less sweet than ER. Contains Jalapenos and Red Chiles and has somewhat of a smoky taste. Could be used as a Chipolte substitute. Blair's After Death Sauce (11): I don't have any of this one and for good reason. I've tried it and it's the worst tasting stuff ever to be used as a condiment. Dave's Insanity Sauce (11): Still tastes pretty bad ( but much better than the Blair's ). About the only thing it's good for is to enhance the heat level on food or a mild sauce. Possible Side Effects (11.5): Essentially an update of BADS; a little hotter and not quite as gross tasting. PYRO (14): A capsicum based oil of extreme heat. Its use is primarily in frying, as in making hot wings or something similar. Its taste is sort of like margerine. Pure Caps: Have not tried this one. But my supplier has stated that she could not determine any difference between it and PYRO. Habanero 750 (17): This one is an extract that comes from Habs and actually tastes good. Starts out quite hot, builds to an extreme level, then lingers I have found that it can be used a hot sauce if you place a very small drop on one end of a taco then eat quickly. Ok, that's what I think. If you've been confused by all the choices, maybe this will help. If you've had all of these, and don't at all agree with me, then you can post your own opinion :-) Flame On! Rob "Certified Chilehead" Reed ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.