Dr G and Shann >Shann, >See what I meant about Byron the Brave? He's >like the Wizard of OG. Nope I am not the Wizard of OG, I bow to Margarette L in that dept. She has 30 to 40 years experience in that dept over yours truly. I do try to be an IPM er, I try Biological controls first, if that fails I try Organic controls, when that fails I use a few of Jerry Bakers methods and then when that fails I use a light touch of Monsanto. BTW Uncle Steve if you read this, Sevin Attracts spider mites.Marigolds do also, for you companion planters. For Shann. When Dukakis was Gov, He closed all but 2 County Agents, The 2 that are remaining are on the Cape and are reserved for Cranberry growers only. Your only help is thru UMASS Amherst. The following is a UMASS addy http://www.umass.edu/umext/programs/agro/vegsmfr/ If you can find him, try to try to talk to Dr John Howell. I lost his addy in a crash, There is a Dr. Rob Wick there, but so far my chats with him,~ 90% of the CH are more knowlegable about peppers than he is. Dr Rich Buanto gives the impression of being very arrogant, too much for me. Chlorine treatment of seeds. The Georgia Treatment that you see in some seed catalogs is a 20% household bleach, This gave me about a 50% loss in seed germination. Robert Farr's formula suggested a 1 to 9 dilution, From personal trials I found only about an 80% germination rate. A couple drops of chlorine per pint of water, for a pkg of seeds appears to work. Leaving a germintation rate in the high 90% range. This is one of those I feel that too much chlorine in not the best. If you can smell the chlorine in your drinking water you probably don't need to do a chlorine seed treatment. Byron BTW Shann, this time of year, Keep off Florida MTN and out of the shade of Greylock