**<<<Maybe you guys arent giving genetic manipulation a fair chance. A real chilihead would be trying to over express the Capsaicin gene to make his peppers even hotter. >>>** i'm having difficulty deciding just *how* to address this reply. nonetheless, trust me ..... REAL chile heads believe in lotsa stuff .... like deep slow kisses that last .......... ( sorry, wrong list ) but REAL CH's certainly don't believe that "Genetically Modified Organisms" will truly improve the quality of chiles, sauces, life, hot/cold/notsocool etc. etc. GM will certainly try to make advances into "El Grande's" genome . REAL CH's know how to "flick-a-bic". hot enuf-for-ya? regards peter g