This is for some of the folks that help newbies. that want to grow hot peppers that were hotter than jals, in the north. A note back and forth, finds he is from Ont. I suggested that he get a catalog from Stokes Seeds in St Catherines. as they have hot peppers that were hotter than Jals and would grow in his area. I get a note back "Thanks I'll check them out, I work right across the street from them" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What has the world of computers done??? @#$%^&*() Byron