On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Liz Albrook wrote: > believe my eyes so I took her a basket of forsythia stems and chatted > her up about that camelia. She doesn't do anything but throw some > straw around the base for winter protection. I almost cried when I > saw it -- Grandma had one just like it. Did you ask her what her heating bill is? I used to see stuff like that in Iowa, but only at the houses with no snow on the roof in winter... Kay Lancaster kay@fern.com just west of Portland, OR; USDA zone 8 (polarfleece)