Kay, my son's family took off for Mt.Hood skiing today, just an hour from you. Surely cannot be zone 8 at 4,000 ft, I presume.. Penny, NY _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]