Kay, I do use Kodak Gold film. Many years ago we played with Fuji and Agfa, but we settled on Kodak because the chemicals we were using seemed most compatible. On your say-so, however, I shall see if I can find some Fuji flim on Thursday, and shoot some of the Starry Night. These flowers are rather dark in color, and even to the naked eye, don't look as good in open shade. I'll try 'em both ways. And Lee Ann, shall also try the polarizing filter. Thanks, everyone! Penny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]