We had a great time yesterday, in spite of heavy rain, hail, and a friend who likes to play with the AM dial to listen to the severity of the lightning (it was severe, I didn't need to know that ;-)) Boca Joe was in the area working up in Hampton, Va. for 2 days, so we planned an afternoon visit to the Norfolk Botanical Garden plant sale, and a brief visit down to our garden. We had a great time at the plant sale, 17 plants for under $60. Some var. margoram, some curry, a few small silver perennials, a gorgeous blue heliotrope, a bunch of different small lavenders to try (not to drown this year), a Gaura 'Whirling Butterflies', a red hot poker and a pulmonaria 'Roy Davidson'. It's reaching the point where the only word's I know are "it's great, but we have that already". Amazing how many plants you can amass when it becomes an obsession. It's a small yard, so I'm hoping this means I'm finally getting close to 'finished'. Joe and I are both tropical whiners. He lives up above D.C., almost zone 6. We are lucky to live in the northeast tip of zone 8. My favorite line was "it's hardy here" when referring to the canna's, windmill palms, Japanese fatsia, dahlias, oleander, gladiolus, elephant ears, butterfly ginger, etc. We still can't get away with Canary Island date palms and Austrailian tree ferns, but I'm working on it. The hour trip down to our house was accompanied on and off by heavy rain, hail, and a tornado watch. what fun. It rained for most of the time we were at our house, but it's now or never, so we had a good time anyway. I got a chance to show him the things I had been telling him about for the past 6 months, and ask him a few questions. Sent him home with a few more variegated plants to show his wife (who will be as 'thrilled' as mine would <VBG>) Now if I can just convince him he needs a small kiddie pool pond, he can get those 2 tropical blue lilies he's been whining about. ;-) Matt Trahan <matttrahan@ecsu.campus.mci.net> USDA zone 8, Sunset zone 31, AHS heat zone 7, northeastern N.C. SUPPORT http://www.cauce.org/ (with no money) HELP STOP SPAM