This 'un bounced because it had a filtered word in the subject line. Your good ol' listowner/administrator is forwarding it on with the filtered word removed. George Good Morning Fellow Gardeners, First, I'm posting this message on each of my gardening list because I'm curious to hear the different solutions folks have for my problems. Let me add a little bit of background info. I live in Dallas and although I've had plants in the yard for about three years they have thrived inspite of me. My first year I religiously used Miracle Grow of course everything thrived, then I heard about organic gardening , so the second year I went cold turkey and used no chemicals the following year, in fact I completely ignored the garden (Mom was ill) and it did fine without me --- except for Black Spot on the roses. It was interesting to watch plants reappear that I had no idea where perrennials when I planted them. Last night I spent quit a while sweating (LOL), weeding and pulling out dead stuff! The heat here in dallas (about 4 straight days of 100+) is wreaking on all living creatures. So, while in the yard I discovered a few things. Bad news first ---- Of course, my roses have black spot, I removed all the affected leafs but now how should I treat the bush and should I cut back weak looking stems --- they don't seem green all the way down. Also if they thorns on a stem are brown I assume that means that stem is dying?? But my biggest problem is something that I have never seen before. Something appears to be eating on everything in the garden from the roses to my mexican heather.....there are holes in the leaves........what can this possible be??? Keep in mind I'd like non-chemical solutions. Also what do you feed your roses with? Now, some good news......a couple of weeks ago my friend directly sowed some seeds I had laying around in the garden....and now I have cute little Johnny Jump Ups and the heat does not seem to be stressing them at all (also curiously no holes in the leafs, maybe the bug doesn't like their flavor...LOL) Also apparently at some point and time in my life I planted a few daylily bulbs because I have one that has been blooming for two weeks and two more on the way (now that i recognize the foliage) I'm sure I had more and pulled them thinking they were weeds. How long will the daylilly continue to bloom? Finally, I have several plants growing that I dont know if they are a weed or not, I broke off a piece to take to the nursery but it wilted so bad in the car this morning I don't know if it they will be able to help figure out what it is? Being fairly new at this I'm afraid to pull things because they might be flowers. I have tons of stuff that has popped up, a few I dont remember the name to, but also lantana (some yellow & some mixed colors) sweet assumlyn (ms?) mexican heather, etc. Can anyone identify this ground cover ---- it kinda has a heart shaped leaf, mid-green color? Well, thank you if you have lasted this long in this rambling message. I look forward to hearing from all my gardening buddies. Elaine Info4Laine@aol.com