Well, we coulnd't have asked for a more beautiful evening. Had about 10 professional horticulturists here last night. I had purchased some holders for candles and we had stuck 8 of these outlining the flower beds and put citronella candles in them. Looked really nice after it got darker. The pond - even missing some of the water lilies- looked good as well. Penny: yes, the beds he was spreading the pinke bark mulch on ARE permanent beds and very little else gets planted in them. This was also fairly fine mulch so proably won't persist too long, but that's OK, improved the soil eventually. Next month our group will tour Crown Center Farm. One member of our group - a retired prof. of horticulture, works for them now. He has quite a greenhouse and planting of tropicals, so should be very interesting. We are lucky that the Lauries are letting us come in. The Mrs. is one of Sam Walton's nieces, later founder of Wal-Mart. We can't tour the house, however. boo hoo! nor see the horses (don't care much about that!) Anyway, how, the yard shouldn't require much more maintence for awhile anyway. Now it's back to the landscaping (for other people) and the wedding flowers. Barb Barb Rothenberger Columbia, Mo. See our pictures of the Philadelphia flower show http://www.geocities.com/PicketFence/3257/