Chatty, I forgot one thing about the pickle receipe. It makes about 4 qts inthose amounts. I usually double or triple it because I have a large canner. It can make 7qts at a time. I'm printing the sauerkraut posting right now. Thank you very much. German was spoken in my Grandmothers house on a daily basis. We had planned on some of the funeral service being in German but the nice young minister doesn't know German, nor does many of the great-grandchildren. Allen