Margaret, yes -- my local Korean Mama/Papa "convenience store" makes and sells kim chee made from Chinese cabbage. They call the cucumber kim chee "oi", and it is bottled separately and tastes MUCH less hot. If one keeps it for several weeks, however, it gets hotter and hotter, and the cukes change from "new pickles" to "old pickles", losing their green. I have no idea if the kim chee gets hotter and hotter, because I only eat it in a Korean restaurant, but never buy it. The pickles, however, are a passionate favorite, but only for the first 10 days, no more. In my Korean cookbook, "Home Style Korean Cooking" by Cho Joong OK, the cabbage kimchi (Yang-Baechu Tong Kimchi) has one more ingredient than the oi, namely salted shrimp (Saewu-Jeot), tiny shellfish in fermented seasoning. That would account for quite a difference in flavor.... I have no car for the next 9 days, but after that, I shall search for the book as you described it. The notation is sitting in my purse! Thanks for the tip.. Penny _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]