Marguerite wrote: I want to get some asparagus and rhubarb, to grow on the outside of the framed garden area, and I am making my list and drawing a plan for which plants get to grow in the small area. ....If anyone has suggestions for my down sized garden, please post ideas for me. I'm not a huge fan of gardening software (it's usually more trouble than its worth, imho), but there's a *nifty* piece of software called Sprout! (Abracadabra is the publisher) that I've found invaluable in getting the most out of the beds I have built for veggies. The software is cheap...under $20 as I recall, and it has a decent-sized database, as well as the ability to add your own entries. It will keep track of planting dates and track a crop through the entire growing season, so you can know when you need to have the next crop for the 'slot' ready to go into the ground. It has a no-frills journal feature that I use to keep track of planting information, growing notes, yields, etc. I have no affiliation with the software or its publishers...I'm just a satisfied user who estimates that I've increased my yield by roughly 40% by using the software. Catharine/Atlanta, zone 7b p.s. - welcome to the Internet!