Byron, we get the hurricanes, but otherwise, I certainly do agree with your wonderful evaluation of life in the NE. Only place to live -- in fact, we're seriously considering retiring further north, since evidently the Mason-Dixon line has shifted, and we don't get enuff snow anymore. Penny, 20 miles north of Manhattan, zone 6 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]