Penny: http://ww.coe.missouir.edu/~hort1/ This is the web site for the Univ. of Mo. horticulture department. You can find my husband's articles archived there under Garden Spotlight. I THINK this might be where George found the info about the raspberries. Ray said there is a Guide Sheet on pruning raspberries and those should all be on line as well. http://MUextension.missouri.edu/explor/ Befor Ray retired I could have gotten you a hard copy of the guide sheet easily - but he doesn't even go into the office much any more! Barb Rothenberger Columbia, Mo. brothenb@socket.net See newpictures of our gradchildren & cats plus some photos of our trip to Greece! http://www.geocities.com/PicketFence/3257/