To C.L.: Did you scratch in lightly your grass seed? Did you spray water lightly, depending on the wind and the sunshine, up to 4 times a day? You see, grass seed can germinate right on top of your driveway, if it gets moist. But nothing will make it grow into real grass unless it can get a foothold in some loosened soil............ It is not too late at all for you to try seeding all over again now, in your location. I have heard in the past something about not planting blackberries and raspberries near to each other. Can one of the knowledgable folk on this board please comment...???? Penny, NY ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]