>>>>>>>>>>>> > One good thing about the backhoe. If you don't have one now it >would only take a few dips from the backhoe to make a really nice >water feature. Now where would you like to add a nice little pond of coi? > >bsk@brightok.net <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Rings a bell -- I had originally wanted a fish pond in the rear corner of the back yard, but was talked out of it because apparently the woodchucks or the racoons would make a game of swatting the fish out of the water, just for sport. Or so I was told... That's why I put in a small Japanese garden over there, instead. My neighbor just had 16 woodchucks trapped and removed to the country at the cost of $65 each... They had nested under her deck. Another neighbor only had 3 woodchucks, and she was charged $85 each. Sounds like an interesting career to go in to..... I had always wanted a Chinese garden, but that would have required a tall wall all the way around, with a 6' high keyhole shaped entrance doorway, and a large stela (stone monument) placed about 2 ft inside blocking the view of the garden from the outside. Its purpose would be to keep out the ghosts, since they will not go around corners..... I would have to win the lottery for that one, however -- or else become a successful day trader. . . Penny, NY ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.