. No, Jill -- we do not have a lower drain. Have to lift the vac with water up to the "laundry tubs". I mentioned the idea to Jimmie last night, and right away he has decided to experiment with a loose pump he has in the shop. And also right away, he forgot. We shall see... Penny, NY ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.