Rich, is or was Ferry Morse located in Rochester, NY...? A few years ago I stopped by there while visiting my son, and they had just decided to go out of the seed propagation business completely. They still had trial gardens with MANY different shades of blue ageratum, plus some other plants, of course. As I remember it, they were going to allow some other seed company to take over their entire business. I happen to plant over 200 ageratum seedlings every summer, and I prefer the darker ones. I'll go take a look at the garden URL you mentioned, thanks. Penny, NY zone 6 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.