I don't mind the tangled mess, I just don't want it to take over. It does shade the vegetable garden some; it runs east-west about 10 feet south of the garden. For much of the day the sun's high enough that it doesn't matter. I don't want it taking any extra, though. I've got coral honeysuckle and trumpet vine planted at the base of the fence, and they do need a little light. We do see some birds in it. I used to see cardinals regularly, but not lately. A few years ago it provided a habitat for groundhogs, but they (the neighbors, not the groundhogs) got a big dog. That was nice of them. The dog also keeps the squirrels out of my corn, I think. They haven't figured out the dog can't get across the fence. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Merten" <ajmerten@earthlink.net> To: <gardeners@globalgarden.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [gardeners] Thursday in the garden > David, > Reading your message had me chuckling. One man's backyard habitat may be > another man's tangled mess. Have you asked your neighbor if they are trying > to provide nesting sites and shelter for birds? > There are several national and local organizations dedicated to > increasing urban and backyard habitats for birds to mitigate the habitat > loss due to home building, parking lots etc. > Does this area shade your garden? If not maybe you could put some bird > feeders/water source up on your side of the fence and be absolutely amazed > at the variety of birds that you would be able to see during the changing > seasons. > If the tangled mess is shading the only place you can put your garden, > that is a real dilemma. > I wouldn't want to be without my garden. I also would be lost during the > winter if I wasn't able to play host to nearly 100 species of migratory > birds. > I'm a "stay at home" because of physical disabilities. The winter would > be a long season of drudgery without the birds. Luckily, I don't have the > pest birds like Starlings, English Sparrows, Pigeons and Grackles. > I am fortunate enough to have enough space to garden to my limitations > and still provide habitat for birds year round. The nesting birds keep my > tomatos free of Hornworms and help control other insects as well. I sure > would like to have some birds whose favorite meal is grasshoppers/fire ants. > Those two pests do a lot of damage to all of my garden crops. > You certainly have the right to enjoy your property in the manner that > pleases you best. I hope that you and your neighbor can work something out > that let's both of you enjoy your properties and remain good neighbors. > Allen > Bastrop Co., SE Central Tx. > Wildscape #1071 > Zone 8 > > >