Hi George...when we put our concrete pond in 9 years ago...all we did when the concrete had dried and cured was wash it out with a combination of vinegar and water...did this a few times initially, but have done nothing since...never painted it, just left it the concrete way...and you did get a bargain! Donna http://www.ICanGarden.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-gardeners@globalgarden.com [mailto:owner-gardeners@globalgarden.com]On Behalf Of George Shirley Sent: June 15, 2000 8:27 PM To: Gardeners List Subject: [gardeners] Bird bath Just got a concrete birdbath from a friends son. The son works at a concrete place that makes steps, curb stops, etc. He told me they had a large birdbath and I could get one for 40 bux. Since even the little ones around here are nearly that much I told him yeah and gave him the money. He delivered it this afternoon. Took 4 of us just to get the base out of his truck, figured the base weighs about 150 lbs. It is 14 inches in diameter at the base tapering to 10 inches at the top and has a fluted design. The bowl is 32 inches across just at the water line and another 4 inches past that. I do believe I got my moneys worth out of this thing. Anyone know of a non-toxic concrete paint that I can use to coat the bath part? George