I usually have good germination with beans, but this year it is very spotty. It's been really wet, and I wonder if they just rotted. I'll plant more this weekend, maybe they'll do better. David ----- Original Message ----- From: George Shirley <gshirley@lightwire.net> To: <gardeners@globalgarden.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [gardeners] What is it with me and beans? > Bob, I can grow just about any bean without problems with the plant. It's > getting a decent harvest that often defeats me. It's getting that correct > combination of sun, shade, fertilizer, and water that takes some doing. > > I started using Kentucky Wonder Bush beans several years ago and generally get > really good yields. This year I got poor yields but attribute that to rain and > sun at the wrong times. At least in a drought year I can control the water. > > As to spotty germination, I've been growing beans since at least 1950. Started > at my Dad's side when a boy. Always, always have gotten spotty germination. Due > to that I always overseed the row and then thin when 4 inches high. The beans > that grow in the Sonoran desert are bred for that weather though. > > George > > > Bob Kirk wrote: > > > > No, not that. Just plain trying to grow them. > > > > Forget the annual attempts to start a few Roma pole beans. All Burpee seed: > > no doubt there's better, but if it's this bad how could they keep selling > > it year after year without a peep of protest? > > Early Bush Italian, Roma Bush, French Filet beans. Six seeds each sown > > one per 3.5" pot of Stronglite bark based mix. With careful attention to > > bringing the flat inside for cool weather or at least sticking it in the > > truck cab overnight. > > Sprouted three each of Romano & French, no Early. Replanting gaps with 2 > > seeds/pot in home made peat:perlite:perlite mix brought the count up to six > > French, five Roma and three Early (two severely stunted, one of which would > > not survive). > > > > All set out, now blooming. Extended the row by direct-seeding two reps > > of 3 seeds/hill of each of the 3 cvv. Of which two hills have sprouted two > > and three plants of Roma and Early respectively and two more showed signs > > of sprouting which disappeared despite hot sunny days, two good rains and > > enough watering to prevent the soil ever crusting. BTW, 5 for 18 is as good > > or better than I've ever done with direct-seeded Romano pole bean seed. > > > > Plus a few nights even into the 40's, but that's (almost) typical of > > Kansas in July. Anyway, fer catsake, beans grow in the Sonoran desert. > > Lewis and Clark ate Sioux or Mandan-grown beans in Dakota. They can't be > > this hard to grow, right? > > Or is that just what to expect from selected varieties - that they > > should be about the most intractable large seeds (of maybe 100+) that > > I've ever tried to grow? >