----- Original Message ----- From: "penny x stamm" <pennyx1@Juno.com> > Ranchmama, I am fascinated by your description of normal summer Oklahoma weather -- don't the cattle mind the 107* sun? Or do they seek the shade, and drink lots of water...? > > If you wanted to, could you use public or well water to keep your veggies alive..? Is water available..? Could >you have a wooden lathe over a kitchen garden, for instance, to shade it from the intense sun..? It sounds as >if ALL fruits and vegetables must be imported into Oklahoma, every summer, from other states. > Penny As far as I know it is normal for around central Oklahoma! You bet the cattle don't like the high temps and direct sunlight! Our cows graze some in the morning wonder up and lay under trees by the ponds most of the day. Usually if you see them grazing it is in the shade of a large tree where more than likely it's also the only thing that resembles green grass also. In the afternoon when the sun goes down enough so the rays are not directly on them they start grazing again and heading out away from the ponds. They do of course drink lots of water ... that is if the ponds don't go dry. The water level goes down a whole lot but with just a month without rain and this heat we can make it ok. Well water is all that is available out in the country where I am. We have 2 wells. One by the house we live in which is a modern home and with about a 200 foot deep well and one old hand dug well that might be about 60 foot deep down at the 'old house' that has been here for almost 100 years give or take a decade. I don't have a area closely suitable for gardening so the garden that I had was very much like those crops planted in the fields. You get what water that mother nature gives you! LOL I griped and complained about not having the garden nearby with water but really after a certain point here in Oklahoma it is usually so hot many garden plants just can't cope with the heat. Like right now I can go out and water my plants all I can possibly stand to of the job and it only just barely keeps anything in the full sun alive. The direct sun just cooks anything plant or person. We don't have hardly any clouds compared to some places in the summer heating period so we do get it full blast! On man, beast or vegetation the sun will cook us all. I made a mistake out on a open tractor brush hogging this May and didn't have any long sleeves on. I had a hat and 3/4 sleeves but the lower part of my left arm that was steering got burned so bad that the skin felt bruised down deep for a long long time afterwards. Sunshine in the western part of the US is nothing to play with. As far as shading a garden goes I have seen a few people put sheets over their tomato plants to try and keep them from getting so scalded but really a lot still goes back to after a certain point I don't no maybe 95*F, I'm just guessing, it is way to hot for many plants to produce for a prolonged period. Then even though they may manage the 95*F give it a few days or weeks and we are up to the 100*F plus stage and everything is cooked just by the air like a oven! It's a hard thing to win around here. No we don't have to import all the produce. Remember when NY is still freezing some folks swear by having the potatoes in the ground by Valentines day Feb. 14th around here.This is what the Oklahoma extension says are the general planting times for Oklahoma. See we are planting when you are still huddling under cover I bet! LOL We do have a long growing season but we just don't always have the best of conditions after a certain time period with lack of rain, full sun, and extreme heat for many plants. I think we are in the mid 90*'s today. We feel like a cold snap came in! LOL http://agweb.okstate.edu/pearl/hort/vegetables/f6004.htm Garden Planning Guide Cool Season Asparagus Fall or Spring 10-20 Beet March 10-20 Broccoli March 10 Cabbage Feb. 15 to March 10 Carrot Feb. 15 to March 10 Cauliflower Feb. 15 to March 10 Chard, Swiss Feb. 15 to March 10 Kohlrabi Feb. 15 to March 10 Lettuce, Head Feb. 15 to March 10 Lettuce, Leaf Feb. 15 to March 10 Onion Feb. 15 to March 10 Peas, Green Feb. 15 to March 10 Potato, Irish Feb. 15 to March 10 Radish March 1 to April 15 15 Rhubarb Fall or Spring Spinach Feb. 15 to March 10 Turnip Feb. 15 to March 10 Warm Season Bean, Lima April 15-30 Beans, Green or Wax April 10-30 Beans, Pole April 10-30 Cantaloupe May 1-20 20 Cucumber April 10-30 or later Eggplant April 10-30 Okra April 10-30 or later Pepper April 10-30 or later Pumpkin April 10-30 or later Southern Pea May 1- June 10 Squash, Summer April 10-30 or later Squash, Winter May 15-June 15 Sweet Corn Mar. 15-April 15 Sweet Potato May 1- June 10 Tomato April 10-30 Watermelon May 1-20 Okie zone 7a aka " Ranchmama "