Craig, we used to get pickled green tomatoes as a treat in the NYC delis, when I was a kid -- they never were particularly salty. We also were used to marvelous so-called 'new' pickles in those days which nobody seems to make anymore. I don't care for the cukes put up in just plain salt, water and garlic. My grandmother used to do that, and I was always disappointed. The other day I bought an 'English' cuke -- one of those so-called seedless, about 14 inches long -- and I washed but did not peel it, then proceeded to slice it down manually into 79 slices. (That's not a problem to someone used to Chinese cooking...) I laid them 4 at a time into a glass quart pudding bowl and salted each lightly, then adding another layer and so forth. Let them stand on the counter for 4 hours, then poured off the water and added half a cruet of Good Seasons dressing made with olive oil and tarragon vinegar, and refrigerated them overnight. Next day I hate to admit this but -- I ate the entire thing up in one attack. Penny, NY ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.