Hi, David and Ron and all -- in spite of the 39* nights, we have not had our first freeze as yet -- and we are several hours north of you, David! This morning as I stared out the kitchen window, I nearly broke my nose on the window ---- there were 6 enormous birds, positively larger than a turkey, slowly ambling across the rear lawn, and stopping here and there for a peck at some hidden insect below... I yelled for Jimmie, and he yelled for the camera, so I did attempt to photograph them. My film speed of 100 was not adequate, however, since a flash was called for and my flash would never have reached them, but we'll see. When I opened the back door to get a better picture, they looked up at me, stood stock still, and then went back to their slow amble. Totally nonchalant. They were dark brown in coloration -- I think the wings (which were folded back) were darker than the body, not sure. But HUGE . . . . There was something white about each head, but I am confused as to just where it was. A month or so ago, we saw a parade of a mother bird and her six progeny crossing our front lawn. She was definitely leading them. When they reached the curb, she stepped off and they kinda jumped off, and then the little ones scampered like bats out of Hades to reach the other side, as if she had told them to beware of cars. It was very funny! The truth probably was that they did not like the feel of the road surface ... We suspect that they have been nesting inside the shell of a house which has been abandoned for 4 months in the midst of a reconstruction, and not one of us knows the story... The whole covey walked slowly from left to right across my rather large lawn, and then 5 of them took the stone path thru the bushes, turned left around the tall spruce, and disappeared. They should have gotten rather locked in back there, but they never came out. The 6th one finally decided to follow them, and walked right smack thru the large impatiens bed, smash, smash, then tangled with the low fencing I keep behind the bed to deter the small varmints from unnecessary trampling. Funny thing -- I had looked out the window in the first place to see if that impatiens bed had been hit by a frost yet, and noticed that the flowers were definitely shrinking down -- so I didn't come after that monster bird with a carving knife . . Penny, NY zone 6 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.