George, Seven hours is considered full sun especially in the south. So if the area is sunny until 1:30 you probably won't have a problem. In fact they probably will do better with protection from the afternoon sun. Antique Rose Emporium at Brenham TX (IIRC) would probably be a good source for information and plants for you. Martha ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Shirley" <gshirl@bellsouth.net> To: <gardeners@globalgarden.com> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [gardeners] Sunday in the garden Wow! You really had a Sunday in the garden. I would like to start a rose bed in my front yard but it is shaded almost completely from 1:30 pm until dark so that the roses would only get partial sun in the afternoon. A neighbor down the street has the same conditions and his tea roses do okay. I intend to plant nothing but old and antique roses with fragrance so wonder if such a site would work. Any ideas anyone? George Kari Whittenberger-Keith wrote: > > Chiming in from cooler climes. > > Here in the southern Willamette Valley, we had a Sunday that was perfect > for gardening--warmish (50s) a bit overcast, with the sun peeking through > from time to time. I went out to mow the lawn. Four hours later I had: > mowed the lawn, weeded all the beds, cut back many of the perennials I had > left up for the winter, built a new rose and perennial bed in my back yard, > moved a bunch (20 maybe?) of plants from a bed that I will be redoing this > year to a set of beds along the back fence. > > Now that the new bed is built, I can turn to ordering the roses--I now know > how much space I actually have to work with. > > And I'm only a little bit sore this morning! > > Kari > > Kari Whittenberger-Keith > kariwk@oregon.uoregon.edu > Managing Editor, Old House Chronicle > http://www.oldhousechronicle.com >