George out of 680 acres we only have one 240 acre place that will grow berries. These are all the wild berries that grow here and there. You know, they grow here this year and move over there next year. LOL The dew berries I just quit picking last week or so and the wild blackberries have been picked 2 times with more red ones waiting for the bucket soon. The dew berries on the first picking was just supper big and juicy! Big as some of those huge old marbles from years ago. We haven't had much rain at all since that first dew berry picking so now all the regular blackberries are good but small on the average. Will put them all in the freezer and make jelly in the future. I want to plant some domestic berries in a long row I can get to and take care of sometime. Surely it would be easier picking than playing hunt and search in all the knee high pecan trees and stickers! Do domestic berries travel like these wild ones do? Last years patch disappeared and I found the blackberry bushes a 100 feet north in the shade of the pecan grove! Do you think your berries are not performing due to a over abundance of water? Berries like it pretty dry with a drink just every now and then. Do you think yours would do any better in a raised bed situation? Ranchmama Okie zone 7a ************************ ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Shirley" <gshirl@bellsouth.net >. What version are you growing Bsk? > > George