I have only been really growing roses a short time, as in planting more than what came with the house. But I have come to love them now that I no longer have to use caustic chemicals. I have found a few good suggestions that have worked for me. Our soil here is pure almost white sand. To that I added large amounts of cow manure, peat and then a layer of top soil. When planting a rose I add a rotten banana, or peel, to the hole. My roses are blooming more than ever since I started adding the banana to existing bushes, by digging a hole in the drip line, and pushing be banana a few inches below the surface. Another suggestion that came my way is to use a milk mixture on the rose leaves to kill black spot. While this may seem unusual, it really seems to be working for me. I spray the roses with a 1/4 mixture of milk to water, but have been slowly lowering the amount of milk. It seems to be working, but if I forget the black spot takes over completely in no time flat. That may have more to do with the fact that I have not been cleaning up the dropped leaves as religiously as before. This is not an approved method for roses, but my experiments seem to be working. I really hated using the fungicides as they burned my skin and left a white film on the leaves, the milk does neither. I know of a few other that are using the banana idea, and a couple of others that use the milk all reporting good results. Of course I still use a good rose food 4 times a year and use a water soluble fertilizer once a week at prescribed dosages. My roses seem healthy and happier than I have ever seen them before ----- Original Message ----- From: <Njdix@aol.com> To: <gardeners@globalgarden.com> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: [gardeners] roses > I need all the tips that I can get on caring for roses. What do YOU think is > the best way to amend the soil, fertilize, stop insects including Japanese > beetles, and stop black spot? I have many flowers, but I have a terrible time > keeping my roses looking like I want. >