Hello, Ron -- it probably depends upon which community you are shopping in for the name 'grinder'. The nearest I've gotten is a 'hero', particularly a meatball hero, altho heros with 2 & 3 kinds of thin sliced Italian salamis, plus tomato, shredded lettuce, of course some slices of Italian cheese, all topped off with a healthy schpritz of Italian salad dressing, are also very popular. Yummy to both kinds! Penny, NY . . ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.