Anyone know where I can get some globe thistle seeds? Pat Neumann Sag Harbor, NY ************************* I got echinops seeds in a Lake Valley seed packet -- at Frank's Nurseries, which is a garden center/chain store. Almost every seed catalog I've gotten recently offers it...look in the perennials or everlastings sections...so you can get Echinops ritro about anywhere. Two places offering Echinops ritro in their online catalogs: Parks Seeds http://parkseed.com/ Pinetree Garden Seeds http://www.superseeds.com/ Several mail order plant companies offer 'improved' forms. Eryngium is sea holly...also neat, and I think it's a group of plants Dr. Seuss would appreciate. Eryngium giganteum http://www.weirdandwonderfulplant.co.uk/ermim.htm http://www.mountainvalleygrowers.com/eryplanum.htm http://www.stratsplace.com/gardendiary/eryngium_seaholly.html Barb in Southern Indiana Zone 5/6 dorsettm@scin.quik.com "If you are not killing plants, you are not really stretching yourself as a gardener." - J. C. Raulston