About this time last year I moved my OG and killed it. About a month ago, I pulled some dried berries off it and planted them. They haven't sprouted, but I don't know if it's because they weren't mature when the plant died, or if I'm doing something wrong. I have the opportunity to ... ummm ... appropriate more berries/seeds from a park here, and need to know if I should plop the whole berry into the dirt, or scarify the seed first, or ... ? And how do I know if the seed is mature? According to an unnamed source who often posts to this list, also lives in Boise, and writes a gardening column for the local paper, birds do a good job of "planting" them. Unfortunately, I don't have any pet birds. I do have cats, but don't know if they would process seeds in the same manner birds do. Should I force feed some to the kitties then send them outside? Maybe pre-dig holes where I want OG bushes? I don't know what kind of OG they are, or if that even matters, but they have kind of bright, medium green, shiny, evergreen leaves and get about 6 or 7 feet tall. TIA. Barb in Idaho Sunset 3/ USDA 6