But Lon that's the opposite of what's happening in nature. Berries/seeds are maturing now. If they fall to earth (even through the medium of a bird's gut), they've got at least two months of warm weather before the cold. And this is a plant that is native and wild. Margaret L At 10:17 PM 7/24/01 -0700, you wrote: >You have the standard tall Oregon Grape (Mahonia aquifolium). The seed has >to be stratified - go through cold, moist conditions, before it will >germinate. Put some in a plastic bag with a couple of tablespoons of moist >peat, put it in the refrigerator (do NOT freeze it) and leave it for three >months. At the end of that time you should be able to plant it and have it >germinate (in a suitably warm place - the seedlings won't come up if it >isn't warm), of course). >-Lon Rombough