I don't know how Troy-bilt is now, but it seemed like for a long time you couldn't just find out how much their equipment cost, you had to first get a packet of information - it reminded me of the sales tactics of some other types of businesses. That sort of thing has always put me off. Just tell me what it costs, then I can decide if I'm interested in wasting any more of your time or my time. Then, about 20 years ago, a friend inherited a large chunk of Uncle Sam's finest, and he ordered a TB tiller. It was like $1700. No way I could have spent that kind of money. So, when I went tiller shopping, I bought a $350 tiller at Walmart, which served me well for about 10 years. And I don't really care for rear-tine tillers, they don't provide the necessary jostling to help me work off the day's frustration. ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Shirley" <gshirl@bellsouth.net> To: <gardeners@globalgarden.com> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [gardeners] carts > Lowes, Home Depot, Walmart, other stores selling MTD tillers much cheaper and don't last that long. > I saw today where MTD is buying Troybilt, maybe they will continue to make their stuff. > > George > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote: > > > > but I just now see that Troybilt is going under. Terribly sad, they did so very much good. I wonder > > what happened. > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > The newspaper article I read said Troybilt had to go to selling machines in the chain stores in an > > > effort to stay afloat. For many years they only sold mail order or at their plant. I ordered mine > > > nearly 40 years ago and it came Railway Express. That should give you an idea of how old that tiller > > > and I are. I might add that it still has everything original including the spark plug. Of course it > > > only gets used for a couple of hours a year. If we say 2 hours each time X 2 times a year X 36 years > > > that's only 144 hours total run time. They're like that pink rabbit with the drum, just keeps on > > > going. > > > > > > George > > > > > > flylo@txcyber.com wrote: > > > > > > > > I have two carts, one is one of those 'kit carts' where you supply > > > > the plywood frame and the wheels, handle, etc are supplied by the > > > > company. It's a wide flat cart with large wheels. One of the wheels > > > > finally lost (split or rotted) the rubber off of it after about 20 years of > > > > service. I do occasionally have to replace one of the plywood > > > > boards though. > > > > I like it because it isn't tippy, can hold a lot of (whatever you're > > > > hauling), and the bigger wheels make it a snap to roll over any > > > > terrain. > > > > I also have a small plastic deep cart, useful for different things but > > > > not as overall functional. Smaller wheels, lightweight, and smaller > > > > carrying capacity. The good thing about this is that it's light enough > > > > that if I haul stable cleanings to the compost, I can just flip it and > > > > it's emptied. The bigger one is more awkward to empty like that. > > > > > > > > Troybilt: We just bought a tiller this year but Lowe's carries them > > > > now. Maybe they're going under a different name or have been > > > > bought out by some company that can supply the chain stores > > > > easier than primarily mail order like Troybilt has been in the past? > > > > -- > > > > Bargyla Rateaver > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > >