Sorry if this is a subject that was before my time, but I am looking for advice on a compost tumbler. I have a compost pile, but cannot stay ahead of the weeds and the bermuda grass. Tried using a trash can that some squirrels had ventilated for me in search of sunflower seeds, but have not been too satisfied with the "roll in a circle" that a trashcan does. Thanks. Norma James in Arkansas where we are in the midst of heat and humidity, the usual for us. ----- Original Message ----- From: gardeners Digest <owner-gardeners-digest@globalgarden.com> To: <gardeners-digest@globalgarden.com> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 11:05 PM Subject: [gardeners] gardeners Digest V2 #1238 > gardeners Digest Sunday, August 12 2001 Volume 02 : Number 1238 > > > > In this issue: > > [gardeners] County Agents > [gardeners] CA > [gardeners] CA > Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > Re: [gardeners] CA > Re: [gardeners] Speaking of insects... > Re: [gardeners] CA > Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the gardeners > or gardeners-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:19:58 -0400 > From: "Byron" <byronbromley@tellink.net> > Subject: [gardeners] County Agents > > Here is how to find your County Agent > > http://ceinfo.unh.edu/state_sites.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:24:22 -0400 > From: "Byron" <byronbromley@tellink.net> > Subject: [gardeners] CA > > Ron > > UC Davis is the Agi School > > > http://axp.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/crops-agriculture.html > > > Byron > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:03:22 -0500 > From: flylo@txcyber.com > Subject: [gardeners] CA > > I didn't get into it with the gals, as to where in CA they were from. > As Bryan / College Station is Tx A&M Univ home, I suspect they're > here with their prof husbands, judging from ages (and 'look') of > themselves and their children. They claimed that when deregulation > hits Texas, we'll feel the same price increases. > martha > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:01:48 -0600 > From: Gayle Fields <fieldsg@cadvision.com> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > Thanks for the suggestion George. Actually, I always soak all my cukes overnight before canning and they > are always crisp. I think what I am really looking for it Icicle Pickles. I remember my Dad emptying > the crock every day and them Mom refilled it with something? Am presently going through all her recipe > books in search. They were a swet pickle and she left them in the crock pot rather than can them. > > Gayle > > George Shirley wrote: > > > Supposedly makes the pickles crisper. I put up a batch last month that were ice water soaked, reckon > > we'll find out when we open a jar. > > > > George > > > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote: > > > > > > what is the point/value of soaking first? > > > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > > > Look in the Ball Blue Book, found at most Walmart stores in the food preserving section. Generally > > > > just consists of soaking your future pickles in ice water for a couple of hours prior to pickling > > > > them. > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Now that the cucumber harvest is in I hope to make some ice water > > > > > pickles but I cannot find the recipe that my mother used to follow. > > > > > Anyone on the list know of one? > > > > > > > > > > > Gayle > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:26:52 -0500 > From: George Shirley <gshirl@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > There's a recipe for Sweet Icicle Pickles on page 45 of the latest Ball Blue Book. Sounds like what > you are looking for. > > George > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > Thanks for the suggestion George. Actually, I always soak all my cukes overnight before canning and they > > are always crisp. I think what I am really looking for it Icicle Pickles. I remember my Dad emptying > > the crock every day and them Mom refilled it with something? Am presently going through all her recipe > > books in search. They were a swet pickle and she left them in the crock pot rather than can them. > > > > Gayle > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > Supposedly makes the pickles crisper. I put up a batch last month that were ice water soaked, reckon > > > we'll find out when we open a jar. > > > > > > George > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote: > > > > > > > > what is the point/value of soaking first? > > > > > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > > > > > Look in the Ball Blue Book, found at most Walmart stores in the food preserving section. Generally > > > > > just consists of soaking your future pickles in ice water for a couple of hours prior to pickling > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that the cucumber harvest is in I hope to make some ice water > > > > > > pickles but I cannot find the recipe that my mother used to follow. > > > > > > Anyone on the list know of one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gayle > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:04:44 -0700 > From: Ron Hay <ronhay@pacbell.net> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] CA > > Hello, Byron, > > Thanks for your very valuable input, as always. Both are still over an > hour away, but at least I know how to reach them. > > Thanks a bunch. > > Ron > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:16:09 -0700 > From: Ron Hay <ronhay@pacbell.net> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Speaking of insects... > > Thanks a bunch! I will see what I can do. I work 7 days a week as a > realtor, and time is not something I have tons of:) > > Ron > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:29:05 -0700 > From: Ron Hay <ronhay@pacbell.net> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] CA > > Hello, Martha, > > Yes, deregulation is certainly a mess, but I scarcely think Bush and his > buddies will let Texas suffer. We, in CA, I fear, are the victims of > political payback when it comes to any assistence to clear up the mess. > > How glad we are to live in the City of L.A., where deregulation is not > (yet) an issue. > > Ron > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:23:24 +0100 > From: Bargyla Rateaver <brateaver@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > can there be any food value left in something that has been "monkeyed with" so much? soaking, changing > fluids, soaking, draining, etc etc What is the point? Food is supposed to be something that nourishes. > > Now, of course, I don't care, who , what , where--nobody is forcing me to eat them. I just wonder how/why > people justify/satisfy themselves about it. > When I go eat at the Souplantation, I always pass by the pickles--can't see any real nourishment in them; > need all my "space" for real food. > > I know, it becomes a routine, etc, part of skills, etc. I grew up with all kinds of pickle making, Germanic > mother, and even have done it myself, but would never do it now because I don't see any food value in it. > > Maybe someone would teach me? and anyway why am I talking here? doesn't do any;one any good, tsk tsk > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > Thanks for the suggestion George. Actually, I always soak all my cukes overnight before canning and they > > are always crisp. I think what I am really looking for it Icicle Pickles. I remember my Dad emptying > > the crock every day and them Mom refilled it with something? Am presently going through all her recipe > > books in search. They were a swet pickle and she left them in the crock pot rather than can them. > > > > Gayle > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > Supposedly makes the pickles crisper. I put up a batch last month that were ice water soaked, reckon > > > we'll find out when we open a jar. > > > > > > George > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote: > > > > > > > > what is the point/value of soaking first? > > > > > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > > > > > Look in the Ball Blue Book, found at most Walmart stores in the food preserving section. Generally > > > > > just consists of soaking your future pickles in ice water for a couple of hours prior to pickling > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that the cucumber harvest is in I hope to make some ice water > > > > > > pickles but I cannot find the recipe that my mother used to follow. > > > > > > Anyone on the list know of one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gayle > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > > - -- > > Bargyla Rateaver > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:57:03 -0500 > From: George Shirley <gshirl@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > In the first place not everything is eaten strictly for the nourishment value, in the second place > everyone does their own "thing." Mine happens to be preserving food including pickles. And, in the > third place, your're exactly right, your talking doesn't do anyone any good. > > George > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote: > > > > can there be any food value left in something that has been "monkeyed with" so much? soaking, changing > > fluids, soaking, draining, etc etc What is the point? Food is supposed to be something that nourishes. > > > > Now, of course, I don't care, who , what , where--nobody is forcing me to eat them. I just wonder how/why > > people justify/satisfy themselves about it. > > When I go eat at the Souplantation, I always pass by the pickles--can't see any real nourishment in them; > > need all my "space" for real food. > > > > I know, it becomes a routine, etc, part of skills, etc. I grew up with all kinds of pickle making, Germanic > > mother, and even have done it myself, but would never do it now because I don't see any food value in it. > > > > Maybe someone would teach me? and anyway why am I talking here? doesn't do any;one any good, tsk tsk > > > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the suggestion George. Actually, I always soak all my cukes overnight before canning and they > > > are always crisp. I think what I am really looking for it Icicle Pickles. I remember my Dad emptying > > > the crock every day and them Mom refilled it with something? Am presently going through all her recipe > > > books in search. They were a swet pickle and she left them in the crock pot rather than can them. > > > > > > Gayle > > > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > > > Supposedly makes the pickles crisper. I put up a batch last month that were ice water soaked, reckon > > > > we'll find out when we open a jar. > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote: > > > > > > > > > > what is the point/value of soaking first? > > > > > > > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Look in the Ball Blue Book, found at most Walmart stores in the food preserving section. Generally > > > > > > just consists of soaking your future pickles in ice water for a couple of hours prior to pickling > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that the cucumber harvest is in I hope to make some ice water > > > > > > > pickles but I cannot find the recipe that my mother used to follow. > > > > > > > Anyone on the list know of one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gayle > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver > > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > > > > -- > > > > Bargyla Rateaver > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:44:38 -0600 > From: Gayle Fields <fieldsg@cadvision.com> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > - --------------F8F963B1F46DAC3BD9C6968D > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Thanks, George - now I have to find the book. Will check out some used book stores around here as the new > ones don't seem to carry them. > > George Shirley wrote: > > > There's a recipe for Sweet Icicle Pickles on page 45 of the latest Ball Blue Book. Sounds like what > > you are looking for. > > > > George > > > > > > - --------------F8F963B1F46DAC3BD9C6968D > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> > <html> > Thanks, George - now I have to find the book. Will check out some > used book stores around here as the new ones don't seem to carry them. > <p>George Shirley wrote: > <blockquote TYPE=CITE>There's a recipe for Sweet Icicle Pickles on page > 45 of the latest Ball Blue Book. 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