there is one, and I have on of those, that is a cylinder mounted on a stand. You fill it from an opening that has a lid, add some moisture if needed, and then close the lid and turn the cylinder off and on. I think Organic Gardening still carries that ad. It is neat, stays put, and plentyof room Norma James wrote: > Sorry if this is a subject that was before my time, but I am looking for > advice on a compost tumbler. I have a compost pile, but cannot stay ahead > of the weeds and the bermuda grass. Tried using a trash can that some > squirrels had ventilated for me in search of sunflower seeds, but have not > been too satisfied with the "roll in a circle" that a trashcan does. > Thanks. > Norma James > in Arkansas where we are in the midst of heat and humidity, the usual for > us. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: gardeners Digest <owner-gardeners-digest@globalgarden.com> > To: <gardeners-digest@globalgarden.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 11:05 PM > Subject: [gardeners] gardeners Digest V2 #1238 > > > gardeners Digest Sunday, August 12 2001 Volume 02 : Number > 1238 > > > > > > > > In this issue: > > > > [gardeners] County Agents > > [gardeners] CA > > [gardeners] CA > > Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > Re: [gardeners] CA > > Re: [gardeners] Speaking of insects... > > Re: [gardeners] CA > > Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > > > See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the gardeners > > or gardeners-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:19:58 -0400 > > From: "Byron" <byronbromley@tellink.net> > > Subject: [gardeners] County Agents > > > > Here is how to find your County Agent > > > > http://ceinfo.unh.edu/state_sites.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:24:22 -0400 > > From: "Byron" <byronbromley@tellink.net> > > Subject: [gardeners] CA > > > > Ron > > > > UC Davis is the Agi School > > > > > > http://axp.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/crops-agriculture.html > > > > > > Byron > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:03:22 -0500 > > From: flylo@txcyber.com > > Subject: [gardeners] CA > > > > I didn't get into it with the gals, as to where in CA they were from. > > As Bryan / College Station is Tx A&M Univ home, I suspect they're > > here with their prof husbands, judging from ages (and 'look') of > > themselves and their children. They claimed that when deregulation > > hits Texas, we'll feel the same price increases. > > martha > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:01:48 -0600 > > From: Gayle Fields <fieldsg@cadvision.com> > > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > > > Thanks for the suggestion George. Actually, I always soak all my cukes > overnight before canning and they > > are always crisp. I think what I am really looking for it Icicle Pickles. > I remember my Dad emptying > > the crock every day and them Mom refilled it with something? Am presently > going through all her recipe > > books in search. They were a swet pickle and she left them in the crock > pot rather than can them. > > > > Gayle > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > Supposedly makes the pickles crisper. I put up a batch last month that > were ice water soaked, reckon > > > we'll find out when we open a jar. > > > > > > George > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote: > > > > > > > > what is the point/value of soaking first? > > > > > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > > > > > Look in the Ball Blue Book, found at most Walmart stores in the food > preserving section. Generally > > > > > just consists of soaking your future pickles in ice water for a > couple of hours prior to pickling > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that the cucumber harvest is in I hope to make some ice water > > > > > > pickles but I cannot find the recipe that my mother used to > follow. > > > > > > Anyone on the list know of one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gayle > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:26:52 -0500 > > From: George Shirley <gshirl@bellsouth.net> > > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > > > There's a recipe for Sweet Icicle Pickles on page 45 of the latest Ball > Blue Book. Sounds like what > > you are looking for. > > > > George > > > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestion George. Actually, I always soak all my cukes > overnight before canning and they > > > are always crisp. I think what I am really looking for it Icicle > Pickles. I remember my Dad emptying > > > the crock every day and them Mom refilled it with something? Am > presently going through all her recipe > > > books in search. They were a swet pickle and she left them in the crock > pot rather than can them. > > > > > > Gayle > > > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > > > Supposedly makes the pickles crisper. I put up a batch last month that > were ice water soaked, reckon > > > > we'll find out when we open a jar. > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote: > > > > > > > > > > what is the point/value of soaking first? > > > > > > > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Look in the Ball Blue Book, found at most Walmart stores in the > food preserving section. Generally > > > > > > just consists of soaking your future pickles in ice water for a > couple of hours prior to pickling > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that the cucumber harvest is in I hope to make some ice > water > > > > > > > pickles but I cannot find the recipe that my mother used to > follow. > > > > > > > Anyone on the list know of one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gayle > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver > > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:04:44 -0700 > > From: Ron Hay <ronhay@pacbell.net> > > Subject: Re: [gardeners] CA > > > > Hello, Byron, > > > > Thanks for your very valuable input, as always. Both are still over an > > hour away, but at least I know how to reach them. > > > > Thanks a bunch. > > > > Ron > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:16:09 -0700 > > From: Ron Hay <ronhay@pacbell.net> > > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Speaking of insects... > > > > Thanks a bunch! I will see what I can do. I work 7 days a week as a > > realtor, and time is not something I have tons of:) > > > > Ron > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:29:05 -0700 > > From: Ron Hay <ronhay@pacbell.net> > > Subject: Re: [gardeners] CA > > > > Hello, Martha, > > > > Yes, deregulation is certainly a mess, but I scarcely think Bush and his > > buddies will let Texas suffer. We, in CA, I fear, are the victims of > > political payback when it comes to any assistence to clear up the mess. > > > > How glad we are to live in the City of L.A., where deregulation is not > > (yet) an issue. > > > > Ron > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:23:24 +0100 > > From: Bargyla Rateaver <brateaver@earthlink.net> > > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > > > can there be any food value left in something that has been "monkeyed > with" so much? soaking, changing > > fluids, soaking, draining, etc etc What is the point? Food is supposed to > be something that nourishes. > > > > Now, of course, I don't care, who , what , where--nobody is forcing me to > eat them. I just wonder how/why > > people justify/satisfy themselves about it. > > When I go eat at the Souplantation, I always pass by the pickles--can't > see any real nourishment in them; > > need all my "space" for real food. > > > > I know, it becomes a routine, etc, part of skills, etc. I grew up with all > kinds of pickle making, Germanic > > mother, and even have done it myself, but would never do it now because I > don't see any food value in it. > > > > Maybe someone would teach me? and anyway why am I talking here? doesn't do > any;one any good, tsk tsk > > > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the suggestion George. Actually, I always soak all my cukes > overnight before canning and they > > > are always crisp. I think what I am really looking for it Icicle > Pickles. I remember my Dad emptying > > > the crock every day and them Mom refilled it with something? Am > presently going through all her recipe > > > books in search. They were a swet pickle and she left them in the crock > pot rather than can them. > > > > > > Gayle > > > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > > > Supposedly makes the pickles crisper. I put up a batch last month that > were ice water soaked, reckon > > > > we'll find out when we open a jar. > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote: > > > > > > > > > > what is the point/value of soaking first? > > > > > > > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Look in the Ball Blue Book, found at most Walmart stores in the > food preserving section. Generally > > > > > > just consists of soaking your future pickles in ice water for a > couple of hours prior to pickling > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that the cucumber harvest is in I hope to make some ice > water > > > > > > > pickles but I cannot find the recipe that my mother used to > follow. > > > > > > > Anyone on the list know of one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gayle > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver > > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > > > > - -- > > > > Bargyla Rateaver > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:57:03 -0500 > > From: George Shirley <gshirl@bellsouth.net> > > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > > > In the first place not everything is eaten strictly for the nourishment > value, in the second place > > everyone does their own "thing." Mine happens to be preserving food > including pickles. And, in the > > third place, your're exactly right, your talking doesn't do anyone any > good. > > > > George > > > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote: > > > > > > can there be any food value left in something that has been "monkeyed > with" so much? soaking, changing > > > fluids, soaking, draining, etc etc What is the point? Food is supposed > to be something that nourishes. > > > > > > Now, of course, I don't care, who , what , where--nobody is forcing me > to eat them. I just wonder how/why > > > people justify/satisfy themselves about it. > > > When I go eat at the Souplantation, I always pass by the > pickles--can't see any real nourishment in them; > > > need all my "space" for real food. > > > > > > I know, it becomes a routine, etc, part of skills, etc. I grew up with > all kinds of pickle making, Germanic > > > mother, and even have done it myself, but would never do it now because > I don't see any food value in it. > > > > > > Maybe someone would teach me? and anyway why am I talking here? doesn't > do any;one any good, tsk tsk > > > > > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks for the suggestion George. Actually, I always soak all my > cukes overnight before canning and they > > > > are always crisp. I think what I am really looking for it Icicle > Pickles. I remember my Dad emptying > > > > the crock every day and them Mom refilled it with something? Am > presently going through all her recipe > > > > books in search. They were a swet pickle and she left them in the > crock pot rather than can them. > > > > > > > > Gayle > > > > > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > > > > > Supposedly makes the pickles crisper. I put up a batch last month > that were ice water soaked, reckon > > > > > we'll find out when we open a jar. > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > what is the point/value of soaking first? > > > > > > > > > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Look in the Ball Blue Book, found at most Walmart stores in the > food preserving section. Generally > > > > > > > just consists of soaking your future pickles in ice water for a > couple of hours prior to pickling > > > > > > > them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gayle Fields wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that the cucumber harvest is in I hope to make some ice > water > > > > > > > > pickles but I cannot find the recipe that my mother used to > follow. > > > > > > > > Anyone on the list know of one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gayle > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver > > > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:44:38 -0600 > > From: Gayle Fields <fieldsg@cadvision.com> > > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles > > > > - --------------F8F963B1F46DAC3BD9C6968D > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; > x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Thanks, George - now I have to find the book. Will check out some used > book stores around here as the new > > ones don't seem to carry them. > > > > George Shirley wrote: > > > > > There's a recipe for Sweet Icicle Pickles on page 45 of the latest Ball > Blue Book. Sounds like what > > > you are looking for. > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > - --------------F8F963B1F46DAC3BD9C6968D > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> > > <html> > > Thanks, George - now I have to find the book. Will check out some > > used book stores around here as the new ones don't seem to carry them. > > <p>George Shirley wrote: > > <blockquote TYPE=CITE>There's a recipe for Sweet Icicle Pickles on page > > 45 of the latest Ball Blue Book. Sounds like what > > <br>you are looking for. > > <p>George > > <br> > > <br><a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver"></a> </blockquote> > > </html> > > > > - --------------F8F963B1F46DAC3BD9C6968D-- > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of gardeners Digest V2 #1238 > > ******************************** > > > > To subscribe to gardeners-digest, send the command: > > > > subscribe > > > > in the body of a message to "gardeners-digest-request@globalgarden.com". > > > > A non-digest (direct mail) version of this list is also available; to > > subscribe to that instead, replace all instances of "gardeners-digest" > > in the commands above with "gardeners". > > > > Back issues are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.globalgarden.com, in > > pub/gardeners/digest/vNN.nMMM (where "NN" is the volume number, and "MMM" > > is the issue number). > > -- Bargyla Rateaver http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver