Re: [gardeners] gardeners Digest V2 #1238

Bargyla Rateaver (gardeners@globalgarden.com)
Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:13:30 +0100

there is one, and I have on of those, that is a cylinder mounted on a stand. You
fill it from an opening that has a lid, add some moisture if needed, and then
close the lid and turn the cylinder off and on. I think Organic Gardening still
carries that ad. It is neat, stays put, and plentyof room

Norma James wrote:

> Sorry if this is a subject that was before my time, but I am looking for
> advice on a compost tumbler.  I have a compost pile, but cannot stay ahead
> of the weeds and the bermuda grass.  Tried using a trash can that some
> squirrels had ventilated for me in search of sunflower seeds, but have not
> been too satisfied with the "roll in a circle" that a trashcan does.
> Thanks.
> Norma James
> in Arkansas where we are in the midst of heat and humidity, the usual for
> us.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gardeners Digest <owner-gardeners-digest@globalgarden.com>
> To: <gardeners-digest@globalgarden.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 11:05 PM
> Subject: [gardeners] gardeners Digest V2 #1238
>
> > gardeners Digest       Sunday, August 12 2001       Volume 02 : Number
> 1238
> >
> >
> >
> > In this issue:
> >
> >        [gardeners] County Agents
> >        [gardeners] CA
> >        [gardeners] CA
> >        Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles
> >        Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles
> >        Re: [gardeners] CA
> >        Re: [gardeners] Speaking of insects...
> >        Re: [gardeners] CA
> >        Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles
> >        Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles
> >        Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles
> >
> > See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the gardeners
> > or gardeners-digest mailing lists and on how to retrieve back issues.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:19:58 -0400
> > From: "Byron" <byronbromley@tellink.net>
> > Subject: [gardeners] County Agents
> >
> > Here is how to find your County Agent
> >
> > http://ceinfo.unh.edu/state_sites.html
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:24:22 -0400
> > From: "Byron" <byronbromley@tellink.net>
> > Subject: [gardeners] CA
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > UC Davis is the Agi School
> >
> >
> > http://axp.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/crops-agriculture.html
> >
> >
> > Byron
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:03:22 -0500
> > From: flylo@txcyber.com
> > Subject: [gardeners] CA
> >
> > I didn't get into it with the gals, as to where in CA they were from.
> > As Bryan / College Station is Tx A&M Univ home, I suspect they're
> > here with their prof husbands, judging from ages (and 'look') of
> > themselves and their children. They claimed that when deregulation
> > hits Texas, we'll feel the same price increases.
> > martha
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:01:48 -0600
> > From: Gayle Fields <fieldsg@cadvision.com>
> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion George.  Actually, I always soak all my cukes
> overnight before canning and they
> > are always crisp.  I think what I am really looking for it Icicle Pickles.
> I remember my Dad emptying
> > the crock every day and them Mom refilled it with something?  Am presently
> going through all her recipe
> > books in search.  They were a swet pickle and she left them in the crock
> pot rather than can them.
> >
> > Gayle
> >
> > George Shirley wrote:
> >
> > > Supposedly makes the pickles crisper. I put up a batch last month that
> were ice water soaked, reckon
> > > we'll find out when we open a jar.
> > >
> > > George
> > >
> > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote:
> > > >
> > > > what is the point/value of soaking first?
> > > >
> > > > George Shirley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Look in the Ball Blue Book, found at most Walmart stores in the food
> preserving section. Generally
> > > > > just consists of soaking your future pickles in ice water for a
> couple of hours prior to pickling
> > > > > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > George
> > > > >
> > > > > Gayle Fields wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now that the cucumber harvest is in I hope to make some ice water
> > > > > > pickles but I cannot find the recipe that my mother used to
> follow.
> > > > > > Anyone on the list know of one?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gayle
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Bargyla Rateaver
> > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:26:52 -0500
> > From: George Shirley <gshirl@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles
> >
> > There's a recipe for Sweet Icicle Pickles on page 45 of the latest Ball
> Blue Book. Sounds like what
> > you are looking for.
> >
> > George
> >
> > Gayle Fields wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the suggestion George.  Actually, I always soak all my cukes
> overnight before canning and they
> > > are always crisp.  I think what I am really looking for it Icicle
> Pickles.  I remember my Dad emptying
> > > the crock every day and them Mom refilled it with something?  Am
> presently going through all her recipe
> > > books in search.  They were a swet pickle and she left them in the crock
> pot rather than can them.
> > >
> > > Gayle
> > >
> > > George Shirley wrote:
> > >
> > > > Supposedly makes the pickles crisper. I put up a batch last month that
> were ice water soaked, reckon
> > > > we'll find out when we open a jar.
> > > >
> > > > George
> > > >
> > > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > what is the point/value of soaking first?
> > > > >
> > > > > George Shirley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Look in the Ball Blue Book, found at most Walmart stores in the
> food preserving section. Generally
> > > > > > just consists of soaking your future pickles in ice water for a
> couple of hours prior to pickling
> > > > > > them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > George
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gayle Fields wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now that the cucumber harvest is in I hope to make some ice
> water
> > > > > > > pickles but I cannot find the recipe that my mother used to
> follow.
> > > > > > > Anyone on the list know of one?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gayle
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Bargyla Rateaver
> > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:04:44 -0700
> > From: Ron Hay <ronhay@pacbell.net>
> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] CA
> >
> > Hello, Byron,
> >
> > Thanks for your very valuable input, as always. Both are still over an
> > hour away, but at least I know how to reach them.
> >
> > Thanks a bunch.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:16:09 -0700
> > From: Ron Hay <ronhay@pacbell.net>
> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Speaking of insects...
> >
> > Thanks a bunch! I will see what I can do. I work 7 days a week as a
> > realtor, and time is not something I have tons of:)
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:29:05 -0700
> > From: Ron Hay <ronhay@pacbell.net>
> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] CA
> >
> > Hello, Martha,
> >
> > Yes, deregulation is certainly a mess, but I scarcely think Bush and his
> > buddies will let Texas suffer. We, in CA, I fear, are the victims of
> > political payback when it comes to any assistence to clear up the mess.
> >
> > How glad we are to live in the City of L.A., where deregulation is not
> > (yet) an issue.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:23:24 +0100
> > From: Bargyla Rateaver <brateaver@earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles
> >
> > can there be any food value left in something that has been "monkeyed
> with" so much? soaking, changing
> > fluids, soaking, draining, etc etc  What is the point? Food is supposed to
> be something that nourishes.
> >
> > Now, of course, I don't care, who , what , where--nobody is forcing me to
> eat them. I just wonder how/why
> > people justify/satisfy themselves about it.
> >    When I go eat at the Souplantation, I always pass by the pickles--can't
> see any real nourishment in them;
> > need all my "space" for real food.
> >
> > I know, it becomes a routine, etc, part of skills, etc. I grew up with all
> kinds of pickle making, Germanic
> > mother, and even have done it myself, but would never do it now because I
> don't see any food value in it.
> >
> > Maybe someone would teach me? and anyway why am I talking here? doesn't do
> any;one any good, tsk tsk
> >
> > Gayle Fields wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the suggestion George.  Actually, I always soak all my cukes
> overnight before canning and they
> > > are always crisp.  I think what I am really looking for it Icicle
> Pickles.  I remember my Dad emptying
> > > the crock every day and them Mom refilled it with something?  Am
> presently going through all her recipe
> > > books in search.  They were a swet pickle and she left them in the crock
> pot rather than can them.
> > >
> > > Gayle
> > >
> > > George Shirley wrote:
> > >
> > > > Supposedly makes the pickles crisper. I put up a batch last month that
> were ice water soaked, reckon
> > > > we'll find out when we open a jar.
> > > >
> > > > George
> > > >
> > > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > what is the point/value of soaking first?
> > > > >
> > > > > George Shirley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Look in the Ball Blue Book, found at most Walmart stores in the
> food preserving section. Generally
> > > > > > just consists of soaking your future pickles in ice water for a
> couple of hours prior to pickling
> > > > > > them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > George
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gayle Fields wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now that the cucumber harvest is in I hope to make some ice
> water
> > > > > > > pickles but I cannot find the recipe that my mother used to
> follow.
> > > > > > > Anyone on the list know of one?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gayle
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Bargyla Rateaver
> > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver
> >
> > - --
> >
> > Bargyla Rateaver
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:57:03 -0500
> > From: George Shirley <gshirl@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles
> >
> > In the first place not everything is eaten strictly for the nourishment
> value, in the second place
> > everyone  does their own "thing." Mine happens to be preserving food
> including pickles. And, in the
> > third place, your're exactly right, your talking doesn't do anyone any
> good.
> >
> > George
> >
> > Bargyla Rateaver wrote:
> > >
> > > can there be any food value left in something that has been "monkeyed
> with" so much? soaking, changing
> > > fluids, soaking, draining, etc etc  What is the point? Food is supposed
> to be something that nourishes.
> > >
> > > Now, of course, I don't care, who , what , where--nobody is forcing me
> to eat them. I just wonder how/why
> > > people justify/satisfy themselves about it.
> > >    When I go eat at the Souplantation, I always pass by the
> pickles--can't see any real nourishment in them;
> > > need all my "space" for real food.
> > >
> > > I know, it becomes a routine, etc, part of skills, etc. I grew up with
> all kinds of pickle making, Germanic
> > > mother, and even have done it myself, but would never do it now because
> I don't see any food value in it.
> > >
> > > Maybe someone would teach me? and anyway why am I talking here? doesn't
> do any;one any good, tsk tsk
> > >
> > > Gayle Fields wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for the suggestion George.  Actually, I always soak all my
> cukes overnight before canning and they
> > > > are always crisp.  I think what I am really looking for it Icicle
> Pickles.  I remember my Dad emptying
> > > > the crock every day and them Mom refilled it with something?  Am
> presently going through all her recipe
> > > > books in search.  They were a swet pickle and she left them in the
> crock pot rather than can them.
> > > >
> > > > Gayle
> > > >
> > > > George Shirley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Supposedly makes the pickles crisper. I put up a batch last month
> that were ice water soaked, reckon
> > > > > we'll find out when we open a jar.
> > > > >
> > > > > George
> > > > >
> > > > > Bargyla Rateaver wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what is the point/value of soaking first?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > George Shirley wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Look in the Ball Blue Book, found at most Walmart stores in the
> food preserving section. Generally
> > > > > > > just consists of soaking your future pickles in ice water for a
> couple of hours prior to pickling
> > > > > > > them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > George
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gayle Fields wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now that the cucumber harvest is in I hope to make some ice
> water
> > > > > > > > pickles but I cannot find the recipe that my mother used to
> follow.
> > > > > > > > Anyone on the list know of one?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Gayle
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bargyla Rateaver
> > > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Bargyla Rateaver
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:44:38 -0600
> > From: Gayle Fields <fieldsg@cadvision.com>
> > Subject: Re: [gardeners] Ice Water Pickles
> >
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> > Thanks, George - now I have to find the book.  Will check out some used
> book stores around here as the new
> > ones don't seem to carry them.
> >
> > George Shirley wrote:
> >
> > > There's a recipe for Sweet Icicle Pickles on page 45 of the latest Ball
> Blue Book. Sounds like what
> > > you are looking for.
> > >
> > > George
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > Thanks, George - now I have to find the book.&nbsp; Will check out some
> > used book stores around here as the new ones don't seem to carry them.
> > <p>George Shirley wrote:
> > <blockquote TYPE=CITE>There's a recipe for Sweet Icicle Pickles on page
> > 45 of the latest Ball Blue Book. Sounds like what
> > <br>you are looking for.
> > <p>George
> > <br>&nbsp;
> > <br><a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~brateaver"></a>&nbsp;</blockquote>
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> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of gardeners Digest V2 #1238
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Bargyla Rateaver
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