Hello, again, I had no idea as to how the cold weather slowed down the decompositon process, kinda thought it might continue at a low key, anyway. Thanks for the heads-up about Orthene. I was in a bit of a rush that morning, when I noted the tremendous overnight damage, and breezed into our nursey with a sample of the leaf damage. At that time, I was one of the first to experience that sort of damage in our area, and Orthenex was what the baffled nurseryman suggested. It was also subsequently suggested to me by "the rose man" at our church, and to date, seems to be moderately effective, if applied every 10 days or so. This is the first year I have gone without regular applications of rose food with systemic insecticide, and it will be my last! I will alternate the use of the one with the other, every few weeks. As part of a hoped-for return to some semblance of normalcy, Viv and I are going down to San Diego for a few days, next week, to meet up with my high school chum, Lou, and his wife, Sherry. That is all predicated upon how soon Vivian can get a dental appointment to repair a tooth she broke this morning, eating nothing more threatening than cereal! Today will see another 102-degree day, a good day to get stuff done early in the garden, before heading in to work. Be well and try to stay positive, as hard as that is at times; I find it helps. Ron